Kit for Tech Diving

Discussion in 'Technical Diving' started by Pete, Jan 2, 2012.

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  1. Pete Active Member

    Here is a question for tech divers who dive in a buddy style. If a diver turned up to do a "Tech " dive in kit you was not happy with would you bin the dive ? .Or if you knew someone who dived kit you were less than happy with ( for what ever reason ) would you avoid diving " tech" dives with them ?
    Pete
  2. Silty Bottom in DIRnial

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    I dunno. I dived with Suggsy in his Charlie Brown sneakers a few times until he bought some DUIs from me :)
  3. Silty Bottom in DIRnial

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    Are we talking ropey back-up torch or full on stroke with bungeed wing, split fins, UK pistol-grip torch, pony and everything?

    Or the whole hog (loop) and on death-box?
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    That’s a very open question, I've dived with very competent divers whose kit looks a fucking disgrace and I've dived with divers who turn up in all the latest Halcyon gear and they couldn't dive for shit.

    I’ve often found that having the latest name in dive kit doesn’t make a diver.

    Personally I'd be more concerned with how they approch a dive than what kit they have on.

    BK
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  4. Pete Active Member

    No one said kit made the diver and as for looks who cares its more about attitude is it not ?
    And you will have to get over your anti Halcyon thing you only make your posts look a little unbiased and we would not want that now would we ?
    Pete
  5. Silty Bottom in DIRnial

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    Pete, what about gas choices? Would you dive with someone who had different gas(es) to you? Even though your agency of choice is quite prescriptive?
  6. Pete Active Member

    Its more of what would you be happy with ,what fins you wear wont kill me but if we are going in a silty wreck then they might make the chance of you kicking the shit out of the viz more likely . ( yes fin technique has a lot to do with it as well), . Short octo hose so coming up on one set is a little more" challenging". Diving with someone on a rebreather that dont have enough gas for 2 of you to get out of the shit . That sort of thing .
    Pete
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    Is this not what I said?

    I used Halcyon pete as you seem to think its the dogs Boll*cks so as you started the thread I thought I'd use a brand that you rate so highly. I could use other Top brands like OMS,DTD, Apeks, Hollis,scuba pro etc if you like?

    If kit isn't the question what is?

    BK
  7. Pete Active Member

    In a no overhead situation say to 50m if they were on air and i lost backgas then i would be heading up to 21M " my next gas " so i would be on air for aprox 4 min .I personally would not have a problem with that . Oh lord maybe now i have posted that someone from GUE will come to my house and take all my cert cards LOL.
  8. Pete Active Member

    Not who make's it but what it is how its set up
    And yes in in my opinion Halcyon make some of the best dive kit available today.
  9. Silty Bottom in DIRnial

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    So what you're saying is, you're willing to make compromises? So where do you personally draw the line? When does it become just too damn strokey for you? :)
  10. Pete Active Member

    I way up the situation and go from there .I have an advantage as i dive with an agency that give me the tools to make an informed decision . You really want to stop believing stuff you read on the internet :D
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    Now there's an irony genade.

    My agenies have given me the confience to look at the diver not what they wear, if a diver can't plan the dive and all that go with it then I'd think twice about the dive.

    BK
  11. Pete Active Member

    So your answering a question i did not ask . If there is no kit config ( on a diver ) that you would not feel happy doing a tech dive with then say no i will do a tech dive with any one in any sort of kit
  12. Silty Bottom in DIRnial

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    Seriously? :)

    From what I've read on here from divers and instructors from a certain agency is that you can't make decisions which go against training.

    Obviously as a free-thinking and free-willed individual you can. But you can't implement those ideas if they go against dogma can you?

    For example; let's just say a diver from a certain agency, let's call it Phooey, felt it would be better for the dive he was doing to have a break in his harness for whatever reason, unlikely I know but stay with me. But his agency said the harness must be one continuous piece of webbing. Now as a free-thinking individual he could put the break in his harness, nothing is stopping him. But he is no longer diving under Phooey training and other Phooey divers would scorn and mock him and shun him.

    Of course what would really happen is the Phooey diver would publicly say that as a free-thinking and free-willed individual he had the tools to make that decision and decided that the break wasn't needed which just so happened to coincide with Phooey's practices and mantra.
  13. Suggsy Well-Known Member

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    Lol, now you know why I had those and that was to size up which size I needed with thick diving socks on, and at a tenner a pair they did the job. However, they were footwear to protect the drysuit and I would still use them if they wernt a bitch to don and doff, if you notice the DUI laces only cross over a couple of times, thus making donning and doffing easier.

    To answer the OP, I wouldn't be in that situation as choosing 'teams' on the boat is a bit of a risky business. Not knowing how 'they' will react to OOG scenario for example is a risk I'm not willing to take.

    The strength of the team ethos to which I subscribe is enhanced by the members of said team being trained in the same manner with similar kit configuration. Any deviation from this unified team becomes a weak point and once the team is compromised then the corresponding depths become shallower to mitigate this risk, perceived or otherwise.

    To sum up, I ain't diving with no strokes. :D
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    So its a planning thing then Pete? you asked about kit in your OP you didn't mention Planning? Just because someone has the identical kit to you doesn't mean they can dive it!

    As I've said before I'd be more intrested in the planning of the dive and that will include what kit is being worn and used.....The question would be is it fit for the dive we were doing.

    BK
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    So that would be me, John and Si? Anyone else you're not gonna dive with anymore? Or are we still ok for the 6m shelf at crappers?
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  16. Pete Active Member

    Sorry but that's bull shit . Gue divers are foremost taught to way up the dive they are going to do and make decisions from there. Gue instructors diving sidemounts, rebreathers, all manour of things that are not in the rule bible LOL where will it all end . If you believe in the Dir way of diving you have a vision of a perfect dive executed in a certain way . You may not achieve all of the parts to make it the dive truly Dir but you can try . I have never heard of a GUE diver having his/her cards revoked for having a break in there harness it would seem you have ?
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