Torch/Light to be used as Primary

Discussion in 'Technical Diving' started by ztirfritz, Feb 1, 2012.

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    SrLagarto DIR-ish DIFF Diver... and, Honorary Idjit ;)

    Location:
    Bugibba, Malta
    I'd read about Greenforces' modular approach - interesting. In your opinion, would it better to purchase the best light-head you can afford and later upgrade the battery, or the other way around?
  1. j_b Active Member

    Location:
    Hastings
    Greenforce all the way... Rob at lumb bros is a star, really helpful and not pushy.
    I went or their David and Goliath package which in effect has given me two torches... One can light and a 'normal' torch for holidays etc.
    Oh, and they're bright too and well made!
  2. Big Joe Member

    Location:
    Whitley Bay
    I bought a LFM back-up that I have yet to test - roll on Sunday. I also was not impressed by delivery.
  3. j_b Active Member

    Location:
    Hastings
    I got a light for me rec light for Christmas ... no idea if they're any good because mine never worked and went back for a refund
  4. Doomanic Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Tauchen macht frei
    My LFM is awesom, but I bought it before all the argy-bargy on the other side. I'm not sure what difference it would have made to my purchasing choice; it was the only canister light in budget.

    It is an excellent light though.
  5. j_b Active Member

    Location:
    Hastings
    In defence of LFM, they promptly offered to repair mine and I did seem pretty solid and well made...
    I'm not sorry I ended up with a greenforce though!
  6. ztirfritz Member

    Location:
    Malta
    Just read Sports Diver March issue and there's a decent article on lights. Ive noticed a Finn Sub torch in one of the images. As per my previous post, anyone have any feedback on the finn sub lights? i read on another forum, a claim that the finn sub strong with one led and offering 3000 lumen is not likely possible. any comments? Light for me with a depth rating of 100m not a contender. So far its the greenforce FII or FIII with a hybrid heptastar head offereing just under 2000 lumen and a beam angle of 10 degrees. But the Finn sub torches interesting especially the strong even though a bit pricey.
  7. Suggsy Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Meh!
    Do you wish to use the torch for communication, for lighting up the area you are diving or both?
    My torch is my primary form of communication and as such has a narrow beam angle. I can also adjust this beam angle by sliding the light head.
    I would be very wary on ANY manufacturers claims for output as they can be incorrectly stated, the most famous of which is Greenforce, which is a shame as they are very common and robust dive lights.
  8. ztirfritz Member

    Location:
    Malta
    Im after something that can do both. Yes, I am aware of manufacturers claims, confusing those following with characteristics which might at first seem important, hence my thread. To try and get feed back from current users. we are kind of limited in Malta for choice and trying a torch before purchasing an impossible mission due to the lack of supply. so any feedback welcome. thanks
  9. aquanaut Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Grimsby
  10. big si Well-Known Member

    Location:
    north lincolnshire
    I use a Light Monkey 21w HID it ticks all the boxes and iv never seen another light beat it unless its a Light Monkey 35w HID
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    Badknees Meg Pilot and Forum KGB

    Sartek 35W hid will blow Simple simons Light monkey out of the water ;) The Sartek is totally reliable only let down by the user.. but it still worked fully flooded @60m it was only on the surface when I noticed the battery and bulb full of water....... it helps to use the sealing O ring which I later found in the back of the car :)
  11. ztirfritz Member

    Location:
    Malta
    What about the LED rage? Reliability and so forth. How delicate are HID heads afterall.?
  12. Silty Bottom in DIRnial

    Location:
    Sunny Runcorn
    I've yet to break mine... and I'm a linesman :)
  13. Suggsy Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Meh!
    I broke mine, but then I was messing about inside it. No doubt about it, the bulbs are expensive, however, look after your torch and it'll pretty much look after you. Throw it about and they will break.
    What I have noticed though is the higher the output claims made by their respective users is inversely proportional to the size of their peenoos.
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  14. Silty Bottom in DIRnial

    Location:
    Sunny Runcorn
    Mine is supposed to be 18W but last time I measured it was 10W ;)
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    Badknees Meg Pilot and Forum KGB

    35Ws and hung like a wasp;-) . HIDs are still ahead of LEDs in terms of actual output but LEDs aren't far off. A couple of years or so and they will overtake HIDs. HID bulbs aren't as fragile as they were but they are still relatively expensive if you do bust one. I've been using a HID for over five years and have changed the bulb only once after the fore mentioned flood.
  15. Pete Active Member

    If you get too powerful a light and the waters full of particals then you do tend to get a lot of light "noise". I use a 10w ( Hung like a F**kin stallion ) and it has been fine for all the diving i do but it can be lost in shallow water on a sunny day .This is not a problem unless you are using it for communication ( as i do :()
  16. Suggsy Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Meh!
    Mines only 3w. God sure works in mysterious ways, although I now understand why I was never any good at the 110m hurdles.
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  17. Doomanic Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Tauchen macht frei
    Does explain why you come across as not very bright...
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